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Proverbs 9:17-18 Stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant. But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.
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"I believed in once saved always saved", says the greedy of heart and sinful "professing Christian". Sin is Death-Darkness- "The wrath of God!"

*THE LORD'S BANNER*

HOLINESS-PEACE!__If the Son therefore shall make you free {from sin}, ye shall be free indeed. (John 8:36) Then said Jesus to those ...which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, {to be holy..free from this worlds lust and love for it} then are ye my disciples indeed; (John 8:31)
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (Romans 2:28-29) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (John 1:12-13)"THE ONLY JEW GOD LOVES"
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Prophets Apology and Warning Print E-mail

This is an example of our deceptive thinking and imagination in "worshiping the concept of  "THE CHURCH" rather than worshipping Christ and following His word in spirit and in truth. We decieve ourselves cause we believe in the "concept of an earthy CHURCH" rather than a heavenly one having total faith and dedication to Christ as Lord and walking in His truth. 

AGAIN; CHIRST DOES NOT HAVE A BODY FULL OF SINNERS AND UNFAITHFUL BELIEVERS BUT HOLY, RIGTHTEOUS, AND UPRIGHT ONES WHO LIVE IN HIM BY FAITH AND IN HIS WORD AS HE SAYS IT. THATS THE REMNANT OF GOD HIS PERCULIAR NATION, HIS CHILDREN.

The just shall live by faith not earthy religious concepts and taditions of the flesh.
"This is the condemnation of the world [the essense of why these things happen in the following article] that light [truth-Jesus Christ-living word-life] has come into the world and men hate the light because they do not want to acknowledge their wickedness, pride and selfishness, by bowing down and acknowledging God, in their hearts, so a pretense of following God is the "carnal church of the earthy" unbelief, loving sin and pride hating truth. They do not want to acknowledge Christ in their hearts for fear of being exposed and having to give up their lust and sins that they love and absolutely trust in to live in this earthy life.

"Wise in their own eyes" building an unfaithful, "deceiful concept", a stock of vanities, an idol of worship, of God's church in the form of an earthy traditional lawminded ethical in unbelief, ruled of men and woman who hate the truth in their hearts for nickels noses and numbers,  rather than being a witness of the "true spiritual Israel of God in Christ the Lord" and following and teaching His word in spirit and in truth. Below is the result. Pride, profit, and prestige is the Lord of this Earthy "deceitful concept" delusion called "Church". Earthy Church is more important than Christ and His Church. There was a natural Israel and now a "spiritual Israel". There is a earthy church, loving lies and delusions of vanity and there has been "a spiritual Church" in Christ and faith loving truth dead to sin in holiness. Christ never ever preached numbers but few will come!

God has always had a remnant He calls His own. Its up to you to find the way, the truth and the life-Jesus Christ!  You are responsible alone TO REPENT AND QUIT HAVING YOUR SINFUL EARS TICKLED AND BOW TO CHRIST NOT to THE EARTHY deceitful concept "CHURCH" AND ITS LYING DECEITFUL PASTORS, PRIESTS, PROPHETS, APOSTLES, and  TEACHERS who hate God's truth to walk by faith not sight. The worshipping of an earthy deceitful concept of church, against Christ and faith in Him and His truth, and its so called prophets, and preachers, is death-eternally.

Another reference is needed here. Prophets of the gospel of Christ are sent to the Spiritual Church of Christ's body not to the outside world today.  Apostle's, evangelists are to the outside world as well as to the Spiritual Israel. Prophets of the old covenant were sent to other nations for it was a time of The Father dealing with bringing the redemption in Christ to the world by a natural nation. Even then the prophets were to the natural nation Isael as a whole most of the time. In the new covenant in Christ the prophets are only sent to those claiming and trying to draw near to Him  and all those that are His in Holiness and faith. The prophesies that God will send will be to His own and not to the world for the World hates Christ and His truth. The church isnt made up of sinners and rebellious people against Christ.
God has instituted the gospel of Christ, His power, to the world and if they dont come and follow Christ in Holiness they become self decieved and believe lying signs and wonders.


 

How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart; (Jeremiah 23:26)

 

The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD.  Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces? (Jeremiah 23:28-29)

But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. (2 Corinthians 4:3-4)

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. (Romans 1:16-17)

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
(2 Thessalonians 2:10-12)

You will now understand the following article;




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ORIGINAL ARTICLE - "WHY I LEFT THE PROPHETIC MOVEMENT"

- by Andrew Strom (-Nov 3, 2004).

 

A report on the Kansas City 'Whitedove' Conference, Oct 28-30, 2004. (-Main speakers: Bob Jones, Paul Keith Davis, Bobby Conner, John Paul Jackson, Shawn Bolz - plus Jim Goll and others).

 

It is with great sadness that I make the following report.
I said last week that the 'White dove' conference in Kansas City this past weekend would be a pivotal one. It certainly was pivotal for me personally. I wish I could say that there was deep repentance - that the preaching was incredibly anointed and the crowd were on their faces crying before God. I wish I could say that, but I can't. In fact, it seemed to me that the opposite was true. The saddest thing of all is that many people probably came away from this conference saying how "wonderful" and "uplifting" it was (-just as they always do). But I have to tell you, I was grieved to the core by it. Many parts of it I would even describe as spiritually "sick".


Some people believe that the fall of Paul Cain into serious sin is some kind of aberration - just one individual's problem. But I am convinced that the fall of Paul Cain (-who was recognized worldwide as the 'father' of this movement) is a symptom of a much wider disease. The whole movement is sick. As I have stated in previous articles, the 'Prophetic' as we know it is really a "fallen" movement - since the early 1990's. But I always held out hope that it would somehow turn around and get back on track again. In fact, I believed that this conference was a heaven-sent opportunity for that to happen.

However, after what I saw this weekend, I no longer believe this is possible. The deception is now too deep. This movement is being "given over to believe a lie" and I want no part of it. I am cutting myself off, because I cannot afford the disease to spread into what we ourselves are doing. Things have now gotten so bad that we have to separate ourselves and to do so publicly.


As you know, I requested special prayer from you all last week that a true spirit of Repentance might prevail in this conference. The reason I made this request was because God had woken me up at 6 am the previous Friday and given me a strong word about the conference. (God only wakes me up like this quite rarely - perhaps five times a year).

The word He gave me was that this must be a 'repentance' conference - that this was in essence the "last chance" for the Prophetic movement because it had become more and more corrupt - centered around money and 'ear-tickling' words, false prophecy and so-on. This was a gathering of KEY prophets at a moment in time when the 'father' of the movement had just fallen. It was God's ideal moment for a truly "solemn assembly". (And yes - I did write and pass this word on - in person - to the three main leaders of the conference).

However, what actually eventuated at this event seemed to me to be more akin to a circus than a solemn assembly. The music, the concert-style lighting, the stage dancers, the groaning tables stacked high with books and CD's for sale, the 'ear-tickling', the hype, the $40.00 door fee (plus extra offerings taken each session) - and that's just for starters.

What really bothered me about the weekend was the total lack of any truly 'prophetic' preaching. There was some good stuff on Self-pity and Bitterness right near the start, but after that it was mostly downhill. As always, there were plenty of anecdotes and tales of angelic visitations, etc. There were Scriptures quoted and a few helpful insights. But as far as a message that truly pierces and challenges and convicts - well, don't go looking for that in THIS prophetic movement! In fact, there were warnings AGAINST any message that might come across as even slightly "condemning", and there was even one of those cute talks on the need for "loving oneself", etc.

Today's prophets seem to talk a lot ABOUT the 'sword of the Lord' but never actually bring it to bear. They bring no piercing word. And thus the entire movement is open to great deception. And instead of REPENTANCE, people are getting all kinds of counterfeit spiritual experiences. There seems to be almost no discernment at all.

The ON-STAGE DANCING throughout this conference was a good example. Now, I myself am a rock musician, but from the beginning these dance items had a rather 'wild' aspect to them that truly made me uncomfortable in my spirit. There was even one that came across like a sensual 'Harem' dance. Much of it really felt "off" - and almost anyone who sees the videos will tell you so. Even the worship had a very "tribal" feel to it at times. And by Day Three they were doing dance items with just loud voodoo-style drums only - and leaping around in a frenzied circle making weird cries to the super-amplified beat. The feeling in the room was so oppressive and "pagan" during this, that I could hardly even bear to stay in there. Then came one of the most shocking statements of the whole conference - from one of the main prophets. He got up and said that people may feel uncomfortable with such obviously "pagan" type dancing, but that it was originally God's type of dancing and we were just now 'stealing back' what the pagans had stolen from God!

I have to admit, this was the last straw for me. What could be more blatant? What kind of 'spirits' do they think are being transmitted to people who open themselves up to that music? There is no discernment in this movement at all.

Now, I do not primarily blame the dancers. They were young and possibly immature. (-They weren't actually from 'Whitedove' itself). Clearly, most of the blame lies with the main prophets who invited them in and openly endorsed and promoted what was happening the whole time. They would get up and publicly acclaim these dance items, thus ensuring that the spirit of it would pervade the entire event. And indeed it did - more and more.

Remember, most of the major "movers and shakers" of the Prophetic movement were at this conference, going along with this stuff. I repeat what I said earlier: This movement demonstrates absolutely NO DISCERNMENT. I urge everyone to GET OUT NOW, before even worse is brought in. I believe this movement is RIGHT NOW being given over to deception by God - and it is going to get much worse.